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DIY Mini Quadcopter Honeycomb Edition

by dennisbaldwin Sep 14, 2014
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Hi! Could you please share how you honeycombed your existing design? I am trying to learn how to honeycomb existing designs using grasshopper but I am a super newbie and I'd gladly use some help. Thanks!

What is the Infill percentage ? and of what type ?

Hey, this is a long way after this was posted, but hopefully you reply.
I fly rc sailplanes and was wondering if i could use graupner equipment and receivers to fly one of these.
i just have a lot of stuff left over, and this looks interesting.
cheers

I'm thinking in building this. what is the other board that you used on the back with the battery and all the harness cables?

regards!

If you could please design propellers

Really cool frame! It seems to be pretty stable and due to the honeycomb design you can ziptie all your components easily - nice!

But could you possibly provide another version for motors like the DYS BE1806 with 12x16mm spacing and ones linke the Multistar 2206 with 16x19mm spacing? That would be awesome!

Will see what I can do and sorry for the delay. For some reason I didn't receive an email notification about these comments. Do you know of any motors that are on Amazon that we could include? I've been looking around for some Multistar 2206 variants but am unable to find them. Thanks.

Hello hello! Which electronic components need? What firmwar?

See the build log in the description and that should have everything you need.

Hi.
It is great looking frame. Can anyone post size between motors and weight?
Tnx

I updated this a while back and sorry I'm just now responding. Please give it a try.

The link to the flight controller is dead. I would like to build this exactly as you did. I have never done it before so I want to be sure I order the exact items.

Also any pointers on websites I can learn more about diy quad builds?

Hi. Would it be possible to use 1804 motors, as I have 4 spare. Thanks

Could you possibly inform us how to wire this quad? All of this is very very confusing even looking at wiring diagrams on google

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Dennis, would you happen to have the size of screws you used to connect the Suppo motor to the Quad? I have the quad printed (Makergear M2 - One piece print) I have the motors and the rest of the parts. I am planning on using a Naze32 (Full). I was planning on ordering the screws from McMaster-Carr and was hoping you had the screw size and length handy.

I also have only a 150mm X 150mm print area........any chance this could be cut into 4 pcs instead of only 2?

I had that proble to. I just cut it in two with the tinkercad software and it printed it nice. Just glue them together and maybe use some ziptie.

GREAT IDEA I AM A ROOKIE AT THIS DO YOU HAVE A BIT SMALLER ONE? I HAVE A 6 X 6 PRINT AREA

Hey, This looks great and im really interested in building it, but im confused as to how to control it (im new to Quad-copters) do you have any ideas as to how to control it? like do i need to buy a remote control for it?

which tx and rx have you been using for this quad?

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Would it be possible to fly this with Gemfan 6x64.5 props and 2300kv motors? I have a few extra sets of the props lying around and could easily remove the motors from my other quad. Thanks

Good question. I'm not entirely sure. I don't have any 6" props to test with, but after measuring in my 3D program you will have 8mm of clearance between your props if you fly 6". That's pretty close together so it may be worth a shot. I can't guarantee how it will fly but if you're willing to test I'd love to hear how it works out. Also, in the future I'll get some 6" props and work on increasing the size of the frame a bit. Thanks.

I just finished building my MHQ2 but in a week or so I have winterbreak, and will have the time to try this out. Also, how much flight time have you been getting out of this with a 1000mAh battery? Seems like it must be pretty lightweight. Thanks, -Logan

If I build this in a few weeks I will definitely try to add my GoPro+200mW TX to it and I'll let you know how it flew with them/how I mounted them. My tx has a medium sized heatsink and only weighs a little bit less than half as much as a GoPro w/ a case on, so I imagine they shouldn't be TOO hard to balance out.

Hey, Dennis. I found your design via your youtube channel, and I'm thinking about using this design for my first multicopter build. Quick question for you: I found an excellent deal on a set of SunnySky X2204S KV2300 motors (http://www.buddyrc.com/new-arrivals/sunnysky-x2204s-kv2300-brushless-motor.html). The store is throwing in a Velotech Magic 12A ESC with each purchase. Do you think these would work fine with the design? Keep up with the great work!

Good question. I love those motors, but am not sure of the bolt pattern. Let me check and see what I can find out. It would be pretty easy to modify the design to support them if necessary, but I'd need to order a set to test. Will let you know what I learn. Thanks.

Thanks for the response, Dennis. Looking forward to your findings. Also, kudos for the additional FPV camera bracket in your latest design. Do you think it will be possible to mount a mobius camera eventually for some aerial footage recording?

Hi there!
I'm looking to start making this build but they don't have 4 ESCs in stock. I was hunting around and found these: http://www.altitudehobbies.com/suppo-m10a-brushless-multicopter-esc-simonk it's got the same firmware and some pretty nice specs. Any reason why these wouldn't work?

Those should most definitely work. I'm doing another mini quad build right now using these:

http://www.multirotorsuperstore.com/electronic-speed-controller/ms-12amp-esc-simonk-rapidesc.html

It's the smallest they have at the moment but I believe they're going to get some 10A soon. Just wanted to put it out there in case you needed another source. Let us know how it goes!

Hi Dennis, I am new to 3d printing built my own diy printer like ben hecks portable printer off of element14/thebenheckshow. I am interested in printing this out, how much filament will this roughly use as i want to get enough in. Usually cura reports this for me but for some reason it didn't when i put on your left hand or right hand honeycomb prints? best regards, Mark.

Good question. I don't know how the MakerBot slicer/estimator compares to your software but let me share what I know. I've been printing in "low" resolution which is 0.30mm layer height and 15% infill. This the breakdown (in grams) of the parts:

Left side: 31g
Right side: 31g
4 legs: 7g

That obviously goes up based on increasing resolution and infill. Hope this helps and let us know how it goes!

Hi, greate thing! Is it possible to somehow mount the mobius cam and FPV?

Good question! I've been working on some mods that will allow mounting a small Sony board cam & FPV transmitter. I'll need to look into adding support for the Mobius. I like that idea a lot. I don't even have a Mobius so I'll need to get one and do some testing. Thanks for the suggestion!

Yup, Mobius is nice little cam. Maybe mounting it on some rubbers, smar gimbail or zip ties to prevent video from shaking would be some good direction of thinking? I have been also thinking about the Sonny board cam with some not verry big and expensive FPV set, maybe 5.8ghz with some googles. Oh, and GPS would be a really cool thing, but I will think about it leater. It's everything what I want from a mini quad.
What RX and TX are you using? It will be my first quad, so I want to know as much as I can. Mostly because of my budget xD
So Im waiting to see your solutions and ideas! :)

You're right about mounting it on some dampeners. Right now the video is too shaky, but it flies well even with the gear on it. I'm trying to find a lighter FPV transmitter. Here is a work in progress of what I'm flying right now:

http://garagepilots.com/profiles/blogs/3d-printed-honeycomb-quad-w-fpv-mounts-for-camera-and-tx

I too would like GPS but haven't found a good solution yet. Thanks for the thoughts.

No problem :)
I have been thinking about almost the same FPV set.

About the FPV camera mount. The first tought of mine about the mounting was something based on gyro. Maybe putting the cam in something similar like this one? :) http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:100362 or http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4391
Also, I have found something like this, maybe it will help You to create something. People are counting on You :P
http://flitetest.com/articles/anti-vibe-camera-mount
http://www.goodluckbuy.com/diy-700tvl-1-3-sony-super-had-ccd-color-camera-with-mount-for-fpv-photography.html

Good luck :)

Parametric Gimbal, prints already assembled
by Bluebie
Gimbal for a SteadiCam

Great suggestions. I've been thinking about something similar to the last link you posted. I just need to find a good source for those rubber bobbins, which look very similar to the ones that come with the Tarot T-2D gimbal. Let me think on this some more and I appreciate the feedback. That gyro setup would be cool, but not sure if I could make it work. We'll see!

what millimeter size is it i don't want togo look ing for a size motor that might not fit
thats the only thing I'm worried about. if you have time get back to me on the millimeter size for the body and pegs if you can. thanks

Sorry I thought I had put this in the description and will do it shortly. From motor to motor diagonally the distance is 226 mm, which is about 8.9 inches. Hope this helps and please let me know if you have any more questions! Thanks.

Hi Dennis,

This looks like an awesome, simple design and perhaps resilient to crashes.

Would it be possible to upload the sketch file as I would like to modify this slightly for size, motors, prop guard etc. I need to run 8045 props.

TIA
Rajnish

I can upload a Rhino 3D source file if you can work with that. I used Rhino 3D to design this model. Let me know!

That would be perfect Dennis. Will post back the file once it has been re-sized in case someone wants to make use of it.

Here you go:

https://github.com/dbaldwin/garagepilots/tree/master/diy_mini_quad_v3_honeycomb

Let me know if you have any problems. I did the "one piece" design for another guy that has an Ultimaker and can fit the whole print on his build plate. Otherwise you'll want the 2 piece version.

If you use GitHub it would be awesome if I could add you to the repo and you could push your mods. If not, then no worries just send to me and I'll uploaded.

Thanks!

Thanks a bunch!!

Will revert once modded and we can then add it to the repo.

Cheers,
Rajnish

Hi,

I have a Cubify 3D printer which is small. I can only print this if a shrink it to 70%.
Do you bielive that it will be functional at a 70% size of the original ?

thanks

Thanks for the comment. I'm not too sure about that because if you shrink to 70% you're most likely not going to be able to run the 5030 props. I did a measurement and you'd be able to fly 4" props with about 10mm of clearance between props. It's going to be pretty tight though. It does look like the Suppo A1510s do support a 4" prop as you can see here:

http://www.flybrushless.com/motor/view/452

So it seems doable. Let me know what you decide to do. Would love to hear how this works out. I had to print it in two halves since my build plate wouldn't support a full print. Good luck!

I would also love to have a version that is split in 4.

Thanks

Hello,
Thanks for your reply.
I am really intrested in building it.
Do you think that is posdible to split it in 4 pieces in order to able to have it full size?
Maybe with the support of 2 plsstic axes (connectors).

Sorry if this question is ignorant; I have no 3d printing experience. Is this design in inches, centimeters, or millimeters?

No worries at all. From motor to motor diagonally the distance is 226 mm, which is about 8.9 inches. The design is in millimeters. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the build! I have the Solidoodle 4 and everything printed perfectly! How long is the battery life on this drone?

So glad to hear that! I need to do some tests with the base frame. I'm working on some FPV camera and TX attachments so I'm not entirely sure. My guess is about 8 minutes but I will confirm that soon. Thanks for printing and the feedback!

Hi, why did you split it? it can print full size w/ a ultimaker...please add unsplitted file. Thanks, Martin

I just uploaded the 1 piece version. Let me know if you have any problems with it.

Hi there, ive have also question about splitting, is that some kind of reliable known seam or youve just kame up with it?
Iam asking, because i want to turn mine mini quad into mini hexa like this: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:445749 but idealy with your honeycomb and seam .)

3 Part - Micro Hexacopter
by TJWeb

I came up with that seam on my own. I'll see if I can come up with a hexa version of the honeycomb design. It's something I've been wanting to do. I'll let you know what I come up with and thanks for asking.

Did I miss this?!? Are you still printing? It's 4:20 central time and all I see is a black screen.

Yes you missed it. In the night I switched off the light to keep the bugs out. I the morning I saw the my cam was fallen into the printing bed...:-(((((. Im now printing again and praying that the axis or other part of my printer had not been damaged....and becuase of this stress I switched the cam off (need to build other cam holder outside od printer...). Regards, Martin

Thank you very much. I'll print it

Since I'm on a MakerBot Replicator 2 I can't print it without a split. I didn't think about all those who have bigger build plates! I'll get that added this evening and thanks for the suggestion.

I love this design. I guess that if using ABS acetone would work very well instead of CA to bond the halves together.

Interesting idea. I'm not aware of how well that process creates the bond, but I do have a buddy that gives his ABS prints acetone baths and they look amazing! If you get around to doing this I'd love to hear how it goes. Thanks for the suggestion.

Acetone works very well to bond ABS parts together, but it works even better if you use acetone with some scrap ABS already dissolved in it so it can fill gaps. Parts glued in that manner are just as strong (maybe even more so) as the bond between layers. I use it all the time and find that it actually holds better than CA on PLA parts.

Killer tip. I'd like to print something in ABS and give this a try. Many thanks for sharing.

What's the size of this propeller?

If you check out the build log I have it listed as the 5030 so that's a 5" prop. I've been asked if this will support a 6" prop so I'll need to test that soon. Thanks for the interest and let me know if you have any other questions.

This is very unique. Well done! Love the descriptions and that you have gone through the effort of suggestions components.

Thanks you!

Thanks for the feedback. If you have any trouble please let me know.

I Have a Spektrum Dx6i TX and associated Rx's. How hard would it be to use those for this build?

Good question. I don't see that being an issue at all. I've done this setup with both Turnigy and FrSky TX/RX combos. I think Spektrum will work just fine. If you want to be able to toggle your flight modes then make sure you have a 5th channel available to do that. Let me know if you run into any problems.