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Iron Man MK6 MK 6 Suit

by DaDave Sep 22, 2016
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Hi
I am new to this 3D printing but I really would like to print the Iron Man suit is this Iron Man complete suit from head to toe and is it for adult

DaDave,
Guten Tag from the US! I echo the compliments of the others. Thanks for developing this and providing this to new 3D printer enthusiast and Iron Man fans. Over the past two months I printed Iron Man and War Machine helmets for my kids to wear on Halloween in the US. They came out great and the few challenges we had were great learning opportunities in a variety of STEM areas.

We are working on the servos, lights and audio for the helmet. I bought a nice electronics kit and other components to include Arduino micro-controllers. I have a basic background in electronics, but have not worked with Arduino or its programming. In earlier comment replies you mentioned that you posted the Arduino program code/sketch that you used. I cannot find it on the Thingiverse site. Can you help me locate it or cut and past it into a comment response? I would love to build it from scratch, but Im swamped, like you seem to be, and only have two weeks. I would greatly appreciate it!

Thanks for your mentorship and coaching on this great build to me and others!

If any other builders have a working Arduino program code / sketch, I would love to view it

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Hi all, I'm completely new to 3d printing but being a massive ironman fan this seems like a great 1st project. Is there anything basic I should know that I may overlook? Also I am a lot heavier than the designer so wondered how and what pieces I should alter to accommodate this? Any help would be appreciated as like I said I'm a complete noob when it comes to printing/fabricating and the software in general

I wouldn't think of this as a beginning project bcs it's just a lot of reworking and technicalities that may or may not make it possible for someone who is just starting out. ill just list a few things that might get in the way of success.

-you need to know about sizing and proportional stuff
-there's a lot of post-processing
-there are a few things in the files that may be a little faulty or flawed (no offense to the designer/s)
-because of those flaws the files may need to be reworked (but maybe some of the problems would have bee fixed in remixes
-lots of filament needed (i think i saw someone say 19 rolls of 1-kilogram spools)
-of all the stuff u might need for the project, it might get expensive. (19 kilograms of filament + filler + paint + sandpaper + other stuff)
-it will take a lot of time and if ur willing to work on it for hours upon hours i guess it's ok
-you will need to know how to slice well with good slicing software
-you will probably print some parts multiple times for trial and error and to get a good slicer setting

theres a lot of other things that might be a problem but im just here to warn u. dont take this wrong im not trying to discourage u im only trying to help.

GOOD LUCK!

Helmet pt06 (top front) is not fitting into pt08 (mask). What is going on? There is no scaling me done on my end.....

Hello, how do you put the helmet in your head (because my head don't enter.... PLS URGENT

What paint did you use for the armor? I have tried too many but none give it the aspects it deserves. Big fan of the suit and even now I struggle with creating it. Thanks.

If I wanted to make this suit but smaller for a child maybe, do you know what the best way would be to scale the pieces so that they still fit together but are small enough for the person wearing them?

I'm having lots of issues printing the mask part. The model barely has any surface area to let it stick to the build plate correctly. I can't get past a few good layers before it messes up and makes beautiful spaghetti in my machine. I'm using an Ultimaker S5.

use rafts or try to up the bed temp

what is being used for the servo's to move
Helmet to open
RFID sensor
push button sensor
and where

I have a few ideas of how I'm thinking about doing it but just seeing what others are doing

cannot find a piece for the back of the suit can somebody tel me witch piece it is and the filename

How do i assemble the helmet i cant figure out the electrics

I am working on making the helmet. What contactor did you use?
I have no idea on anything with electronics. This is my first project.

I am currently printing the helmet to start, but am running into issues. I printed parts 2 through 5 which are the side pieces to the helmet. The problem is parts 2 and 4 are different sizes, as are parts 3 and 5 when compared. Plus the "circle" on part 5 is way more rounded and unfinished looking compared to part 3. Was it intended to print 2 and 4, then make a mirror print of them?

I'm having the same problem. Also the line in the pieces above does not line up with the line on the faceplate at the eyes when it should. I'm going to print out just ear sections from another model and attach them after removing these ones. Bondo the lines on top and redo with a Dremel.

O_M_F_G
I thought about doing the same, but just after a few tries to make a template, i was like "hey ... this is a pain in your a** and this work will take so much time, that you will never finish this".
I am so impressed you really done it!

What software did you use to design this?

Here a quote from the description:

"First I found the figure of the Iron Man MK6 suit on thingiverse. As I already made an Iron Man suit of foam I was really sattisfied to find such a good model.

I used Meshmixer to make the things thicker, enlarge, resize, connect them and try to delete failures.

Hinges and things like that were made with Inventor. "

I think this should answer your question.

Quick question: What measurements was this made for? I.e. what are your measurements? (Hight, weight, etc.)

quick quote from the description:

"It might be that some parts to not fit to your body. please check it bevor you print all.
I am about 1.8 meters high and I have a weight of 80kg. The following measures may help you:
head: 58cm
shoulders 53cm (from side to side)
chest: 105cm
waist: 90cm
hips: 104cm"

LOL
don't even need to resize it for myself XD
You're awesome

Hello, pettie question how to connect the small plate at the end of the forearm just above the hand for this to be binding but it can move a little?
Thank you
Phil

It should move a little. maybe there is some manuel rework needed. Use a spring or a flexible strap to make it come back to your hand again. To connect the to parts of the hinge I used a plastic screw. was easier to put in :-).
I hope I hit the point or do you mean something different?

No it's correct, thank you for your reponse :)

I am only printing the helmet (so far...). If I were to add LEDs to the eyes, would this obstruct my vision? Also, would you recommend printing the eyepieces with natural PLA, or make them with another material?

You nearly see nothing when the lights are on, depending on the material a bit more or less. I used acryglas so I see just a little bit. With natural PLA you wont see anything.

Hello, I introduce myself Phil :)
I went to realize the Iron Man suit with your files.
I thank you for your work.
I have a problem with a part of the arm, just above the forearm, the part of the elbow, I can not find it in your files
I made the hand and the fingers, the forearm part with the plate.
But I look in the files but I can not find.
Can you help me please.
So it's the part of the elbow between the forearm and the biceps.
Thank you
Phil

Ok it's good I found
by forcing me to look for lol
it is not in the Winrar file but in the files of the website
thank you

Best problems are selfsolving problems!
Have fun with it.

It's certain
Thank you good night :)

Hi DaDave,

ein absoluten Rwspekt vor Deiner Arbeit. Ich glaube jedes Kind träumt von so einer Rüstung und Du hast es wahr gemacht. Absolut genial! Ich fange auch gerade mit dem Druck an und wollte die Rüstung noch etwas erweitern. Vorab daher 2-3 Fragen. Ist der Helm schon in Deiner Größe oder muss ich die skalieren? Mit welchem Programm vergrößerst Di den Druck? Ich nutze Simplify3D, habe aber keine Ahnung, wie ich die Teile so groß bekomme. Hat man in dem Helm noch etwas Platz? Habe meinen Raspberry mit Jarvis, einem Mikro und Servos ausgestattet. Auf Sprachbefehl (Codewort Friday g) bewegt sich der Servo und soll so später u.a. den Helm öffnen. Würde ich den RPi unter bekommen oder doch später lieber im Torso?
Viele Grüße

Hallo Cyrga,

erstmal hier nochmal der hinweis: ich habe nicht den hier hochgeladenen Helm genommen. Der Helm den ich genutzt habe ist in der Beschreibung verlinkt.
Das Skalieren ist leider etwas try and error. Es gibt einen File der heisst IronMan_MK6 oder so. da ist die gesamte Rüstung bzw. die hälfte. Wenn du sie umskalieren möchtest, skaliere diese Teile um und nicht die bereits geschnittenen. Du musst natürlich danach alles für den Druck zuschneiden.
Ich habe für skalieren und schneiden das Programm "Meshmixer" genutzt. Ich fand es vorallem für diese Funktionen sehr gut. Für die Bearbeitung eher nicht so. Kann aber auch an meinen Fähigkeiten liegen.
Simplify3D ist ja lediglich eine Slicer Software wenn ich das richtig im Kopf habe. Zum wirklichen Anpassen ist es damit etwas schwerer. v.a. weil die Bauteile schon alle geschnitten sind. Dann verliert man sehr leicht den Überblick.

Im Helm habe ich einen Arduino verpackt. aber das ist schon recht eng. Mit einer PI könnte es noch etwas enger werden. Am meisten Platz hat man in den Schulterbereichen. Ich denke hier ist es am erfolgsversprechensten.

Well done on this amazing project dude it really does look amazing. i do have a very technical question tho, it is something i know to be possible but have not yet found anything online with it included in an iron man suit. There is a scene in iron man 3 where the suit is stood upright and tony just steps in and the suit wraps round his back, is it possible to do something like this on a 3d printer or would it have to be something mechanically made? i was thinking maybe have 2 buttons (one on each foot where the toe goes) that when both stepped on closes the suit around you. Sorry for the long winded question but gotta try lol.

For an awesome designer this would be maybe possible. but the work would be horrible. I would like to have such a suitcase as seen in iron man 2, but you know, I am happy that the suit fits and works.
I dont think you can make such a project out of this suit. sorry

okay so i have thje bulk of this made though im doing 3d print and foam for comfort on some pieces and as i go through i am mostly curious how did you attach the shoulder pieces ?
where they connected to the back piece or am i missing something ive kinda seen and idea in your videos but if you could elaborate it would be helpful, truly appreciate this print outstanding work DADAVE

I think i dont get every point you mentioned. pictures of the exact positions you mean would be great.

I connected the shoulders by soldering the ball hinge onto the chest/back piece. After that i added some flexible straps to stabilize it.
As mentioned anywhere before. My way must not be the best way to do it. there might be a lot of better ways.

hello, i printed the helmet that you provided ( not the mk3) and i don't really know how to make it open and cloe with a servo...
So i wanted to know if you have photos of the interior of a motorised mk6 ?

as mentioned in the description, I used the MK3 helmet of jhon De Sousa, so i can not give you pictures of something i dont have. sorry. but there are already pictures of the inside of a helmet uploaded. there is no difference between the helmets anyway. so you can take a look at these. hopefully this might help you.
regards

And would I be able to order this already made and painted from anybody?

If you want to by something finished go here: https://buyfullbodyarmors.com/

Would there be any way to enlarge the whole thing but add padding because as you said, it's not comfortable?

for sure there is the possibility. just take the suit file Iron_Man_MK6 and enlarge it to se size you need.
But this wont make hard PLA confortable anyway. The most imoortant problem are your joints. because there it wont be that flexible that it is comfortable.

hey again, what is Your foot size? And how did You put together abs parts? All were glued? And how to connect shoulders to chest piece? And what about ABS_hinge and Clipmount? After all I'll try make tutorial how to connect all parts

Hello Traktorzysta, If you want to do the work with a tutorial that would be great. I wont do this, because the project is done since more than two years for me. Just answering questions as good as possible.

My foot size is 43 must be around 9 in american size, but there is enough space for bigger feet in it. Approximatly up to 45/46 - 11.5

As mentioned in the descitpion, I used a soldering Iron to connect all parts together. This works better than glue. In my opinion.
The hinges you can find as file. It is called ABS_hinge.

For the shoulders I also soldered the ball-hinge from the shoulder onto the upper part of the chest. You can also use other solutions. I all depends on preferences.

Hope this might help you.

what pice should i make to see if this fits me

There is no specific file. the easiest thign you can do is download the file "iron_man_mk6" and measure there in CAD.

What height should you be to be able to where this?

Here is a quote from the description. I think if you are 5 cm higher or smaller it is all fine.

"I am about 1.8 meters high and I have a weight of 80kg. The following measures may help you:
head: 58cm
shoulders 53cm (from side to side)
chest: 105cm
waist: 90cm
hips: 104cm"

Hello
First, thank you for your work, this armor is top.
I have been working on the manufacture for several months (with a printer XYZ da vinci pro) and the whole is taking shape correctly, I have adapted the size compared to my body (about 10% more).
I would like to know if it is possible to get the plans for the flaps at the back? I tried to do it myself, but I have difficulties with Blender.

I hope to finish the armor for Gamescom in Germany this year

Thanks for help

PS: sorry for my bad english, i am french ^^

I just added the flaps and the back for the flaps I used. It is still a lot of handwork for you. I remember that the fitting was not really good. But I hope this might help you.

regards
Steffen

thank you
I will try to use them

Hi, great work and I can see you put in a lot of time for this. Thanks for sharing with everyone. I'm using an Ender 3 with Cura 4.0.0. I'm having a tough time getting the glove R pt1 to print well. The skirt is wrong and the printing looks off. I was able to print the glove R pt4 like it should be. I was wondering what software you use and if that could be my issue with printing. Thanks for all your help upfront with this!

I just used an older cura (think around 1.4 or so...) version, also caused it is some years ago for me. but did you try the other glove model and checked if the failure is still there?

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1623321

Iron Man MK6 MK 6 Glove Hand with repulsor
by DaDave

So I've only been doing this for 1 week and am very new at all the software etc. I believe my issue is the software but I'm not too sure what is going on. I've added some pics to what I've been printing and some issues. I did try both gloves and they appeared to have the same issue. Pic 109 is the glove I had to stop. I tried flipping it around in Cura 4.0.0 to see if any different angle would print better. If there is any other software that is better to work with let me know and I'll look into it. If you can help I would appreciate it. I will also be searching for anything on the internet as well. Thank you for all your help.

It looks like you might have a loose belt. Check the tension on both the belts.

I was able to print the glove this weekend. I have a few minor issues but I didn't use any supports to see what it would do. Thanks or helping me out. Also, what filament did you use to print the suit? PLA or ABS?

I re tightened for good measure and still had an issue with the fan guard test I used, it's very sloppy. I'll keep looking around. And per the post below I'm using an Ender 3 and the print volume is 220 x 220 x 250

Ok....so AMAZING fun fact. I downloaded the Beta Cura 4.1 and the difference is night and day. It's an amazing perfect print on the right compared to the left print from Cura 4.0.0. I will find time and redo the hand when I can and let you know.

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Would this print with the Ender 3 Creality printer?

i dont know the exact size of the ender printer, but i think its possible. my prusa clone was about 220x220x250 and it all pieces worked.

I love it, but my problem is that I have a 130x130x130 primer, and the pieces are way too big

You will have to cut a lot. I dont think that this will make you happy ;-(

how did you make the eyes?

I added some leds to some plexiglas. pictures and videos look a bit better than it is in reallity.... But if you take a look at the internet there are also some eyes to buy. maybe not the worst idea.

How do you piece together the chest? My printer had to print each individual file for the chest (5 pieces for 1 side).

I used an old soldering iron. this works fine for thermoplasts. and yes you need to print every 5 pieces for one side. so 10 pieces at all. 5 mirrored 5 not mirrored.

I have a question about the sizes. Is the image I send you right? I want to say:
-The head's size is around the brow
-The shoulder' size is of shoulder to shoulder
-The chest's size is around the chest
-The waist's size is around the waist
-The hips's size is around the hips

Is there some link to see the electronic and the montage?

Good job, the armor is incredible and thanks you.

With the sizes you are right.

there is no diagramm for the electronics, yet. I try to make one, as soon as possible for me.

Because i just made one and did not make a real plan while mounting and building everything, there is no real plan. sry.

Ok, thanks for your answer. I have others questions:

Where do you keep the bateris, in the chest?

Is the helmet and hands connect with the armor? I try say if the helmet and arms has a batery or a nano arduino inside or have you all cable's parts conected with the chest?

Where did you put the switch to open the back and the helmet?

Thanks

I keep the betteries in the back. At the top of the back there is a lot of space.
So there are all wires with some plugs going into my back.
I just use 2 arduinos. one for helmet one for my backflaps.
the hands are with normal switches.

if you take a look at the videoes carefully you see two positions for the switches. at the round parts of the hips. are two switches. one at each side. at the beginning I had a switch at the helmet itself.

hope this might help you.

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I will try my best to make a diagramm. free time is less you know ;-)

And 2nd question to You. What kind of neck are You using? I printed neck from Your files and it doesn't fit good and looks like different

Thank You but i'm already done with it ;) friend helps me. Now I have problem with lower arm pt.2, my hand is too big and i need to cut or resize this part. Now learning freecad

For the shoulder, does one need to print all of the part or can Shoulder parts 1-4 be printed in place of the single shoulder piece?

They can be printed in place. you dont need to print it as one piece.

Hello I am building this for my son and have nearly all parts printed, how did you fix the abs together and how did you attach them to you and also the ribs, I think I can figure out the rest?

i glued the ABS hinge on the ABS parts and connected it with a screw. If I remember it right i used an M4x25 screw, but i am not sure. I also used this to connect it to the chest. The Ribs are just added because of a wish of a member of thingiverse. If I were you i would make them of foam, because it is much more comfortable.

how did you do it whit the gloves? i can fit my hand in glove_R_pt01 but if i glue glove_R_pt02 on i cant get my hand in..

I think in any description i told that i used a flexible strap. So i did glue a flexible strap at pt01 and on pt02 and i can slip in the glove while the strap changes it lenght.
does this description help?

Will someone 5'10" 160lb fit in this guys??

you are a bit short. i dont give it a good chance. because the legs and the chest might be a bit to long. I think you need to scale it and see if it fits by try and error. sorry.

Just Have a few questions, because I'm seriously considering making this:

  • what is the: layer thickness, nozzle diameter, and precision settings on your printer to make this.
  • What are the links to where you bought: Lights, mechanics, paint, magnets.
  • How much supports did you sand off, and if so what grit sandpaper did you use?
    Also really cool design!

Most things should be included in the description, but if something is missing i will add the informations here again ;-)

-layer thickness: you have to sand it anyway. so i does not matter.
-nozzle diameter: I used 0.4, nowadays I would use a bigger nozzle to save time, bcause you have to send it anyway.
-at least you should make 1.2mm walls and the top and bottom 1mm. more is just good to make it last longer.
-I nearly bought everything at ali...press..., because ti was cheap. the parts you will find in the description.
-Sanding until you have a clean surface. But you can also add surface like you do when oyu repaint a car. however. this is the most annoying part of the work. I starte with sandpaper of 80, and the last i used was 400 to make it a bit more smooth.

hope this helps you. any particualr question just ask again and i try to answer.

how can i print the opposite side ? i only have glove R in my files =/ =)

For each of the Objects with an "L" or "R" or "half", you just have to mirror the object to the other side. Also, there is one file that says "3x" (a spine piece I believe) so I just made 3 of them. the 3x piece was symmetric, I didn't mirror those. Hope this helps.

you are completly right :-)
thanks for answering.

Hey, what paint did you use for the suit? Looks really nice!

Here is my reply of a reply of a reply ;-)

Here is a comment from 18th of May :

I can just give you the EAN number of the dupli-color paint colors
for red: 4048500706868
for gold: 4048500738760

I do not know if the numbers will help you, I am from germany and here these numbers can be used to find it.
I hope you mean halloween 2019. Because one month is really to less to print it. However, Good luck, Much fun, and less trouble.

How did the flaps on the back? Do you have the file

I just cutted the pieces out it was a lot of handwork till everything fits. I have some files at home where are just some flaps to print. do you want me to upload them?

Hey , so im trying to figure this out im using arduino NANO with your code, i have a switch and the board uploaded code and wired as per your UNO schematic , figured it would work same even used 10k resistor
Servo just move a slight every second , im not sure whats going on by any chance have you or anyone made a wiring schematic , cause this is the last piece i need for my helmet and im pulling hair trying to figure out whats wrong.
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP MEEEE! lol
Thanks

Yeah wiring again^^
I wanted to make a good plan since i made the suit. I am mostly to buzy or do not remember it in my free time. Sorry. I really try hard^^

do you forgive my English, could you help me to resize everything based on my measurements?
I can not

I would be happy if I could. I think you will just have the same Problem as I had while building it. It is all try and error. I just gave my meassurements to have an idea if it can fit or not.

Good Morning!
Can you make the armor with the files you posted or do I have to use some remix?

You cna make the mirror with the posted files. Just take the parts with "L" or "R" in it to your slicer and mirror it. no remixes needed.

Good Morning!
Very good job, I want to do too, it seems that some parts have to mirror them, how do you do it? Can you give me a hand!

Hello,

I just used Cura Slicer to mirror it. I think most slicers can do this. Should not be a big deal.

Regards
Steffen

What a genius. congrates

Hi,

kannst du die EAN oder Partnummern für die Teile des Handschuhs, LED etc posten? Daaaanke

Leider habe ich das nach über 2 Jahren nicht mehr so ganz im Kopf.
Handhschuhe sind aus einem Karnevalsladen.
Leds, sind einfach 5mm leds von ali.....press.... und die runden in der mitte konnte ich leider nicht mehr in meiner Bestellhistroie finden.
Sorry.

How did you set the eyes up so they did not blind you when closed? and will Plexiglas work for the eyes?

If there is daylight outside you see a bit. at night you are completly blind when the mask is closed.
this is because oyu can not look from a bright room into the dark ;-). also if the eyes are made of plexiglas.

regards
steffen

hi dave, im printing this helmet currently and is the top of the helmet that the mask sits in is this right? looks very wide. cheers marrick

Hello, again same answer,
I used another helmet. this one is just to make the model complete. Which helmet i used you can see in the description.

regards
Steffen

Is the left lower arm file the same for the right arm as i am planning on only making a right forearm . or is there a separate file for the right arm.

Hello,
The description just says, that you need to mirror every part with an L or R in it to get the second one.

regards
Steffen

ciao ma questi sono file di una meta.. e l'altra?

Ciao, devi semplicemente fare il mirror delle parti che hanno solo una destra o una sinistra

ciao! una domanda, ma ce solo un file della mano ma l altra come si fa? grazie

Sorry I also do not speak Italian, but the descriptions says that you need to mirror the hand to get the second model :-)

Hola Como puedo pasar un diseño de pepakura a un programa de impresión 3d como has hecho tu Por favor ?

Sorry, yo no hablo español

Impressive work. I'm going to try to make this soon.

Hi,

I'm in the middle of printing these files. Great work by the way. I have a question about the abs hinges. how many do you have to print and where do they go/ attach? do you have any plans of where all the parents go? Many Thanks, Sean.

Sorry this project is more than 2 years ago for me and it was all try and error. so there are no plans.

I'm 6'6" and want to print this off, how much would I need to scale some parts to allow them to fit?

I am really sorry to tell it again and again, i cant say if it fits on anybody elses body and i can not tell you which changes you need. It is really try and error. sorry.

you are god guys good job and thx to posted :)

Thank you for this thing! Thumbs up to you!

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I have 9 more prints ( right thigh and knee ) then done printing the full suit . I'm 5 foot 10 inch's tall . I have tried it on . and checked all m measurements . unless your 6 foot 3 inch's the suit will not fit .

Are you saying you need to be 6'3" to wear the suit?

I Printed it , and checked scale was right . I have a few photos on my facebook page . I was using this as a learning tool for my 300 by 300 by 420 printer , and wanted a Iron man suit . all I have left to print is right thigh . Going to get it all printed up and painted . I may turn it int a robot . if any one want to print a suit start at the bottom and work your way up , easy way to find if it fits before your to far into the build

Im having troubles with the "chest_half_L_pt05" regardless of the print volume i select it gives too large error. what size did you scale this to. this is the arc reactor area i believe

DaDave, thanks again for posting your files for this suit. I added my make for it.

For those that are going to attempt this, here's some advice on it:

  • Use the following model as a reference for how things should be put together, it's what the suit was based on: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1026995

  • Look at all of the remixes for updated and fixed parts. There are quite a few pieces that have issues, and most have been fixed in these remixes.

  • Don't use the helmet included in this, it doesn't piece together properly, and you have to attach the back piece after you have it on. There are alternative ones available that you should use.

I ended up using remixed versions of the hips, ribs, and thighs.

Iron Man Mk. 6

So the code for the helmet was giving me some vibration in my servo, and causing it to cycle back and forth rapidly.
I fixed the first problem by attaching the motor, setting its position, and then detaching the motor immediately after the button is detected as opposed to attach the motor in the setup function and never detaching it. When a servo is given an active state, it continuously uses energy to hold it in one position. Turning it off conserves energy, and the weight of the faceplate in this instance is not enough to turn the servo on its own.
The second problem (reverting back to the starting position after a button press) was solved by turning the pin into an active low, and putting a 10kΩ resistor between the power source and the button's pin. Attached is a modified arduino sketch and a wiring diagram. Both don't use LEDs.

I addressed by disconnecting the servo (in code) after each move, then reconnecting just before you move it again.

I have a Prusa I3 MK3 that has a build plate of (XYZ) 250 x 210 x 200 mm, will all these parts fit on it? (not at the same time of course)

You will probably have to cut the parts in your slicer and glue them together after you printed them.

Hey DaDave , Wie kann Ich die teilen zusammen bauen ? bitte brauche deine Helfe

Hey DaDave , how can I connect all the parts Please need your help

Hi Dave,

What did you use to make the eyes?

Plexiglass?

If so, were you able to see clearly when wearing the mask?

Thanks in advance

Hola como se sabe cual pieza encaja en la otra pieza? y como haces la escala? y a que escala esta hecha la armadura sera para una persona de 1.70 o mas?

I am sorry, I dont speak spanish but I think I know what your queastion should mean. Here is a Quote from the same questions below:

Quote from the discription:

It might be that some parts to not fit to your body. please check it bevor you print all.
I am about 1.8 meters high and I have a weight of 80kg. The following measures may help you:
head: 58cm
shoulders 53cm (from side to side)
chest: 105cm
waist: 90cm
hips: 104cm

so I am about 5’9”

Hope this will help you.

I cant answer if this fits any other person. I am really sorry. It is try and error.

DaDave, What size person is this built to fit?

Already specified in description

Hey DaDave! This is a really awesome suit, and I appreciate that you're giving the files out for free. I've decided to print this as a Halloween costume, and I was wondering what color spray paints you used. I've been looking around on the internet and local stores and I can't seem to find the right shade of Red and Gold. Thanks!

In north america, I used home depot paint:
Rust-Oleum Painter's Touch 2X Colonial Red and for gold: Rust-Oleum Specialty Metallic Gold Spray Paint. I am using chrome paint for the silver accents.

Here is a comment from 18th of May :

I can just give you the EAN number of the dupli-color paint colors
for red: 4048500706868
for gold: 4048500738760

I do not know if the numbers will help you, I am from germany and here these numbers can be used to find it.
I hope you mean halloween 2019. Because one month is really to less to print it. However, Good luck, Much fun, and less trouble.

Thank You!

As 3DGuardian mentioned, the thighs are not printing as a solid piece, only the walls.

I added a remix with the fixed files. The instructions on how I did this are below.

Open in Meshmixer
Go To Edit -> Make Solid
Use These settings:

Solid Type => Accurate
Solid Accuracy => 512
Mesh Density => 512
Offset Distance -> 0.5mm (this is the important setting, which you can try playing with)

Click Update
Click Accept
Export as binary .stl
Import into your slicer and confirm that it's printing as a solid.

Thanks for the instruction!

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How did you connect the neck

I used some hook-and-pile fastener to connect it with itself. There is no other connectuion to other parts. IT just fits around the my neck and does not really move.

So just brought a 3D printer to print your design, are all the peices the correct size to fit together? sorry completley new to 3d printing

I am totally with 3DGuardian.
Also if I just bought the printers to make the suit^^. But in fact it is a rally huge project.

About the scales: I just worte my Bodysize in the discription. I am not abled to know if it fits to any other person. It is a bit like try and error. Sorry.

This is a massive build to start learning about 3D printing. I would suggest that you start with the helmet and go from there. The pieces are proper size for the size and height of the original builder. I had to modify some pieces because my feet and arms were longer. You might have to modify some pieces accordingly to your body build.

So im curious because i wanted to print this too, but I needed to know if everything will stay in place without the motors or anything, like y'know fresh off the printer without using motors or anything does it all just kind of click together? please email me at friskthehuman70@gmail..com with reply

The only thing which wont stay in place without help is the mask.
But you can tighten the hinges or use hotglue to fix it.

I don't know what you mean by everything. In the pictures, you can see that the builder used straps and probably other means to keep all the pieces in place. There is a lot of post processing and typical armor skeleton build so the pieces stay in their proper places using straps or elastic straps.

Hey DaDave, fantastic job with this! I've been printing it pretty laxidasically for the last three months. I'm trying to figure out how the neck goes together but I can't quite make it out from your pictures here. Any guidance would be incredibly helpful. Thanks again

He didn't print the neck, he used the foam version you can get online, same goes for the ribs.

bonjour et merci pour cette armure je suis actuelment entrain de la fabriqué et j'aurez voulut savoir les code couleur pour le peindre et savoir comment vous avez fixé le réactor sur l'armure et si vous avez des piece de fixation pour le motorisé cordialement laurent france

Bon courrage pioupiou, tu peux chercher sur internet les couleurs de l'armure, car chaque personne utilise des couleurs differentes.

Amazing job, I am 80% finished printing all the parts, but the thigh are two thin walls and do not print properly at all. Anyone else with the issue? I am trying to fix the STL but I Can't seem to create a shell or be able to make the parts solid.
If anyone can make the thigh parts solid that would be wonderful.

I was able to find a way to fix the thigh parts. I made a comment on the main thread.

Answering my own questions if people have the same issue, you can put twice the same part on your slicer and move one of the two parts 0.5mm, it will add enough thickness to the part to glue it together with other parts.

Wow, lots of comments. So my question has likely been asked before, but here goes. I do not want to make it motorized, at least not right now. Do the parts of the helmet stay in place without a motor holding them? Also I read one comment that said something about the faceplate not being scaled to the rest of the helmet properly, forgive me if I read this on another suit post. Basically I just want a decent helmet that is not hard to take on and off for now. does this one fit that bill?

As mentioned in the discription, I used another helmet! Its linked. Because it fits a lot better. The whole suit is just a scale, so the fittings are not perfect for sure. Also mentioned in the discrition.

To use the helmet without Motor: If you use the hinges or other hinges, you can tighten them as much as you need to not oben the helmet, or you can use some hot glue to fix it reversible.

Hi, tnx for share your great work! i'm close to finish it all, but i've some trouble with arduino. I bought a full starter kit but even with your sketch and tons of video guide, i still can't let it work properly, can you show me a pic with how you connect led, servo and button? did you use an external power supply for 12v led? thank you

How many roles of each filmet do you need for full suite

Here a quote from the discription:

"All made of PLA at 195°C, 60°C heatbed and 45mm/s speed.
Walls at least 0.8 mm if you really want to wear it. I used 1.2mm walls.
You will need really much time to print this suit. It took me more than 3 month (24/7) and more than 20kg of filament to print the whole suit."

In fact it depends a lot on your printer settings how much material you will need.

From the picture seem that the lower arm part 3 is different than the armor his wearing. The inner part of the elbow should have a round disk at the top like the outer side but it does not.

edit: I found this elbow hingue and i might build it to the inside of the suit.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2409748

Airy Arm 2015
by enj2307

lower arm part 3 is the part of the hand flap. I th might mean the part 1. And yeah i printed a "round disk" and soldered it onto the part.
I will check if I find it anywhere on my Notebook if you really want it. Just let me know and I upload it.

regards

Thank you for answering so many questions!

I'm attempting to make this full suit. Thanks a ton for posting. I do see a few problems with some of the files, I'll compile a list as I go through this later.

Note to everyone making this, do not use the helmet files here. The faceplate doesn't fit the helmet. It's too wide and too tall. It sticks off the top of the helmet and doesn't lay flat. I tried to sand it down as much as I could, but it won't lay flat. It looks like other people in the builds section have the same issue.

Also, it won't go on your head fully glued together. You need to leave the back piece off and attach with magnets, or similar, after you put it on.

You should use the one by MIPRESIDENTE.

You are right. as mentioned in the discription I used also this helmet. Because it fits a lot better.

The whole suit needs a lot of manuel rework when it is printed. this are not perfect fitting parts. But I just made one uit. so the failures I found I did not correct cause there was no real use for me.

But I am happy if someone announce the failures or better if someone correct it XD

regards

One more question. I have a full arm printed. Did you attache them at the elbow? How do you keep the parts in the right place when wearing the suit?

I used foam in the inside so that it can not move away from the arm. to connect the parts I used a flexible strap and the part "clipmount" with an M4 screw. Hope this might help you.

Thanks! Thats one one my only 3 issues! More than 60% printed by now!

First thank you for this!! Im printing it now. I ran into a problem with the model lower arm part 3. The top of the model has some weird errors. Also how did you connect the hinge in part 2 and 3?

I could print it wiht cura as slicer but in case of error try for example the autoinspector fuunction of meshmixer and the repair function.

For the hinges: I used, as always, a soldering iron to connect the parts. works great.
And of course a screw for the hinge pieces. In the center I used a Spring you normally use for tensioning your belt of the 3d printer.

did I get the point or did i miss it?

Good morning, and Thank you for the files!
I'm printing the suit at the moment and it's looking great. What would really help me would be a 3D model of the suit complete so I can use it as a reference?
Is there a link to one?
I'm sure you have answered this question a ton of times and I will continue looking through the thread but thought you may message me back before I find it :)
I will be sure to credit you on all my Dax79 social media as soon as it begins to form!

All the best from Jersy Channel Islands
Dax

SpaceCadet2 is right.

Iron_Man_MK6.stl in the folder seems to be a decent reference of all the files.

yep you are right.

How do I measure/scale the helmet to fit my head?

It is a bit try and error.

Does the skemetics and the assembling guides of the arduinor part is in the files?

No it is not. I wanted to make one long time ago. But I always forgot. I will do my best to make one...

I remember that I saw this about a year and a half ago loved it but was never brave enough to print it. Now that I have much more experience in 3D printing I feal ready to go in this adventure! My hight is 1.73m do you think the suit should be ok for me? I was also thinking to add some kind of sponge to make it confortable do you think this will be possible?

I think the upper body will fit well. Depending on you leg length the legs can be a bit more complicated. There you migh test a bit around. I just used EVA foam inside for the comfort. Sponge is closely similar so it will be usefull for the comfort, but please dont expect to run and jump with the suit ;-). Walking is hard enough.

I will give it a try, will print it slowly without rushing and will let you know if I ever finish the suit, I think the mannequin would be useful I saw that you had one as well, any idea where I can get one cheap? (I'm from UK btw)

Well I bought a new one for aorund 60€. I think it was from amazon. If there is a cloth shop shutting down, you might have the possibility to get one pretty cheap.
In fact I got the problem, that i needed to cut off hands and feeds of the mannequin to get everything on it. Therefore I needed a solution to reconnect hands and feet. I used some wood and screws.

Me an a couple of other people are having a problem with the large files shins,arms ect either quarter or half way the print restarts again?

Hello warmancb001,

I think i did not get the point. Is you problem that the print restarts or is you problem the size of the file?
I believe the restart suffers from the gcode, not from the model. Did you check you gcode after generating it?
Did you already try it with another slicer software? I just used cura and it worked for me, as you can see.

kind regards

hello, I'm making one, to make the mirror, I can change x, y, z. with changing the Y axis it would be enough right? forgive my ignorance in this part but I have never needed to make a mirror of a piece, and I think that doing only the Y axis is enough but I'm not sure, can you advise me? thanks and congratulations for the work.

Hello Royodin,
I think many people might have the same question.
It does not matter which mirror you do. You just need to mirror it once. if you mirror it once on the Y-Plane it is enough.
If you mirror it twice. no matter on which plane you will get the original part again.
Hope this helps you to build a suit.

I would be happy to see some makes soon XD

Always wanted to build my own iron man suite but i never had time for it. most "presets / diy instroctions" were really crappy... iam totaly in love with your design.

thank you very much for sharing your work !

you are welcome. In fact i might have missed some parts or there would also be some problems I did not mention, because I simply forget about them^^. If you really start building it will also take a lot of time or a lot of 3D printers.

Hello I think this is great but I'm 6,6 will this suit fit me?

I think it should XD
in fact you need to be pretty thin. I had a lot of problems with the fitting. for myself until it worked. So every body is different and therefore I can not make a valid statement to someone I do not know^^

Hi. I really love this project and I'm soon finish with the helmet. Sadly I'm no god in reading ardurino codes without the schematics. Is it possible for you to make a quick drawing of the pins you are using on the ardurino (NANO)?

Hello Sciuruz,

I just used the arduino uno for my programs but I try to make a picture of the pins as soon as possible.

regards

Really crazy job and detailed instructions, thank you so much

Hey man, ive had this set if files foir a while now and im finally ready to start printing. However I noticed with certain parts (in S3D) I go to prepare to print them and hole/gaps appear in the parts. Finger tips have small triangles missing and things like the elbow seem to be inverted in the model view. Did you have this issue and fixed after printing? Ive attempted to use 3d Builder and Netfabb to repair the models but they pick up no errors, thanks!

did you try to use the model for the glove only? and do you have the same Problems there?
here is the link:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1623321

I am sorry but I really do not remember every single problem I had because it is now 2 years ago that I printed the suit.
It might be that I just printed it and used some surface and grinded it to fix it.

Iron Man MK6 MK 6 Glove Hand with repulsor
by DaDave

The design is amazing, thanks you!

In the complete 3d model, the hand is of the other arm. Is not an important thing, but you have to know this error.

Good Morning,

Could you send me the link to the complete model pleases (Or I'm I being a spaz and not seeing it somewhere obvious?)

Yeah I saw it after creating it. I was thinking of changing it but in fact you need to mirror it anyway... so I decided to ignore it ^^.
Thanks for taking care.

Hey man my dream has come true, 3d printing is now a thing for me, What program do you use to make this stuff?

As mentioned in the discription it is made of an figure from "RohitVen". You can find the link in the discription. I just scaled, extruded and cutted it. Maybe some other rework but thats all. So i did not design the suit.

Thankyou for answering, but I still can't find where the files are located. Please notice me where I can download or please share me the link for downloading the files. Thank you.

The files are called
backsketch_1_button.ino, added on 02/07/18
IRONMAN_helmet.ino, added on 02/07/18
they are saved in this project on thingiverse

Great work :-) I assume you printed it in white then Spayed all the parts ? Sorry if its been asked before but would you have the paint code colours you used or the Filament colours if you did use colours that were close to the finished project Cheers .........

I can just give you the EAN number of the dupli-color paint colors
for red: 4048500706868
for gold: 4048500738760

hopefully this might help you.
I just used any Kind of red and yellow filament for printing. the color is not nearly at the finished one....

Hi, Awesome suit and I m new to3D printing. I have Creality CR10S 300x300x400 and wondered if you have any of the parts that are not sliced such as Forearm and Bicep and legs. I have tried to merge the parts to print as one but unsuccessful at this. Many thanks for the plans.
Tony

tonywilson21@hotmail.com

the file is already up. it is something about 57 mb and called "Iron_Man_MK6.stl"

Thank you for the reply. I have found the file. If I'm correct it is the half suit file which is approx 60mb. What software should I use to separate the parts.

this depends on you preferences, I used meshmixer but there might be better programs to do so.

Do you mind uploading sketch files(programming) of helmet and backflip and led parts at the thing details corner? If you mind to do it, you can just ignore me. thank you.

Helmet sketch file is already up. When I will be back home in i week, i try to remeber to upbload the back sketch file.

hey mate im makin this armor for comicon BUT i found a problem in ur files u got the right glove palm BUT there is no left palm is it possable u can send me the left palm because iv spent hours and countless filiment on all this and would like to finish

he is right. you need to mirror it. Here a Quote from the discription:
"You will need to mirror many parts with your slicer. The chest, back, hips are just half models. I added a "L", "R" or "half" to mark them you will need to print a second, mirrored one for the full suit."

I think you have to mirror the right to get the left.

Hello all,

I just slice all the costume parts an it takes around 11Kg at 20% and 1mm wall (top, bottom, walls).

I add 5-15g to each part to apply a possible Cura slicer error.

cheers!!

PD: I add the excel file to calculate the cost depending you planning cost.

I am sorry for the late answer. In the discription I wrote how much material I used, but in case it depends a lot on the printer settings. As I wrote in the discription, I printed with 1.2 walls, cause I used a 0.4 nozzle. However, it is not a cheap short project :-). And thanks Javisanz for calculating it with these settings.

Thank you for that! I was wondering how much it would take. I was thinking 15Kg would be more than safe. I was not too far off.

Thank you for that! I was wondering how much it would take. I was thinking 15Kg would be more than safe. I was not too far off.

how much filament does this suit take in total? I was thinking about printing the whole suit if possible

In a couple weeks I will start printing the complete costume. I just upgraded to a CR-10 Printer so printing wont be a problem ;) If you would like, I can post update photos and what not. If you would be interested in the, what would be the best way to get the updates to you? I already prepped by ordering a tun of PLA in both red and yellow :D Cant wait to start !!!

helm pt 09 are the hinges for the mask correct?

They should be correct. Have you any problem with any hinge?
I am Working on a CAD model with integrated mounts for the hinges, but I did not finish it yet. And I believe it might take some time till i will do so^^

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Hello, I was wondering what size person this would fit? I have a friend who is 5 foot 4 and I wanted to know if this could fit him. If not, what should I scale it to?

I am sorry to tell you, that I can not know whom it would fit. I believe it might be a bit to big for you. It uis just try and error.
Sorry for telling that ;-).

Hi, super Projekt, ich bin immer wieder aufs neue beeindruckt, wenn ich mich dran setze!

Ich komme langsam in die Postproduction und wollte mal nachfragen was für ein Grundierungsspray oder Spritzspachtel du benutzt hast? Auch würde mich sehr interessieren welche Farben verwendet wurden: bronze und matt rot, wobei alles mit Klarlack abgerundet wurde? Vielleicht hast du da bestimmte Marken die deiner Meinung nach gut sind.

und mal was ganz anderes: Würdest du empfehlen es von innen mit Glasfaser zu verstärken?

PS: Bilder kommen bald (:

Hallo,

also ich habe alle Lacke, Grundierungen etc. von DupliColor genommen. Ich habe keinen Spritzspachtel genommen, weil er mir zu teuer geworden wäre. Dafür hat das manuelle Spachteln und Schleifen länger gedauert ;-).
Ich habe tatsächlich ein Chromeffekt Goldspray genommen, aber leider sind diese nicht sehr beständig. Bin mit Gold also noch nicht ganz zufrieden. Vor allem wegen dem Gold konnte ich keinen Klarlack nutzen...

Wenn du nur einzelne Stellen mit Klarlack machen möchtest, geht das, aber Ich habe mal versucht einen ganzen Anzug aus GFK zu machen, dass wird viel viel viel zu schwer.

Freue mich auf die Bilder :-)

Danke für Tipps!

Im Anhang sind 2 Bilder: einmal das, was ich soweit habe und im zweiten das "Faceplate"- Element bearbeitet mit Spritzpachtel

Hallo,
hast du den part 1 vom Helm auch angeklebt oder ist es gedacht das man ihn nach dem aufsetzten befestigt?
Mein Kopfumfang hat 57cm und die Öffnung vom Helm ist leider zu klein für mich wenn er komplett zusammengeklebt ist.

Ich habe das Teil angeklebt und den Einstieg hinten gemacht.

looks like a kick a$$ suit, cant wait to make it... currently waiting on my first shipment of filament.
what im wondering is.... im 6 foot tall 190 lbs... will i have to scale up the parts or think it would fit as is?

It is pretty hard to say what need to be scaled. I think some parts may fit like they are, but not all. I am sad to say, that you might test it by try and error. Calculating exactly wont fit.

I'm currently down with the right arm and chest, plastic is running low and printer sounds like it's about to blow up from nonstop prints. All worth it

Thanks for the nice post. It is a change to answering all the questions. I am looking forward to see some pictures.

Where can I find the files for the War Machine Suit?
Also, aprox. how much did this cost to print in terms of materials and time?
Much Thanks

Check out my other designs and discriptions. There you find your answers.

Good evening
I wanted to know why you do not have the complete helmet design, can you print in one piece? any problems?

Greetings and Thanks

I just uploaded the parts in the size I printed it. Most printers cant print complete helmets because of the size. Also mine. Therefore nor complete helmet. If you want it, just let me know. I can upload it.

would you be very kind, can you send it to me to my e-mail? devidfrescura@icloud.com

I just uploaded the model, it was a bit to big for an eMail.
File name is Iron Man MK6

if you want you can send it by e-mail with wetransfer... https://wetransfer.com

hi can you helpi cannot find the back flaps you have in the video on this file set

thanks

andy

I cutted them out manually. Was a lot of work and the back does become less stable. Therefore I would not do it again.

to which part of the back is soldered the spine ? dont know where does the flaps of the back spine are soldered

Back_spine_pt01 und Back_spine_pt02 should be soldered to back_half_pt03 and back_half_pt04. Maybe a bit into back_half_pt02. I would first Finish both halfs of the back and then connect the spine.
The part Back_spine_pt01 was connected with flexible strips to the hips. for a bit more movement. I used it 2 times, but you can also use it a bit more often if you are bigger than me ;-).
I hope this might help you.

yeah i allready finished both halfs, actually all the parts from the hips to the top, i found that the low resolution of the model messed up the joints of the shouders, i made them in fusion 360 to cut the ones of the model and then solder the ones that i modeled
im 1.85m and 80kg, so dont think that 5cm will make a problem.
thank you DaDave :), i
m currently working on another suit mk3, first im smoothing the 3d model that i got from pepakura, to start printing it when i finish this first

I am excited to see your mk3 suit. will you share the files, too?

Hi
ich habe eine frage ich hoffe das du das lesen kannst DaDave aber ich bin davon ausgegangen weil du ja ais Deutschland kommst. Meine frage ist wie kann ich den Anzug richtig zusammenbauen ich bin ein bisher verwirrt ich hoffe du kannst evtl. eine Datei hochladen wo man zum beispiel den Helm zusammengebaut sieht oder den Brustpanzer ich würde mich sehr freuen wenn du mir helfen könntest
Danke

Hallo Michi,
sorry für die späte Antwort. War etwas länger nicht mehr hier. Also eine zusammenbau Zeichnung gbit es nicht. Da ich das Projekt eigentlich nur für mich gemacht habe und mich nach dem Zusammenbau entschieden habe die Dateien zu veröffentlich. Es ist ein bisschen puzzlen aber eigentlich sind die Baugruppen so benannt, dass du zumindest weisst, welche Teile zusammen gehören. Viele verschiedene Möglichkeiten gibt es da eigentlich nicht. Außerem wurden immer nur gerade Schnitte genutzt. Wenn du also alle Teile von z.B. Brust oder Helm gedruckt hast, würde ich ein bisschen Klebeband zum positionieren empfehlen und dann ran an guten Kleber oder einen Lötkolben (der danach vermutlich nicht mehr für richtiges Löten genutzt werden kann!).
Ich weiss nicht ob ich dir mit dem Kommentar wirklich weiter geholfen habe. Aber es ist auch ein Bild dabei, bei dem du quasi den Anzug siehst und auf das 3D Modell von RohitVen habe ich ja auch in der Beschreibung hingewiesen. Hier nochmal der Link: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1026995 , das kannst du garantiert auch als Hilfe nehmen.

Iron Man Mk. 6

Ok Danke
Wie viel fielament rollen hast du benötigt und welche Marke ?

Congratulation for your work. Very nice. I have a i3 prisa and i have build an other of 800x800 to make big pieces.
That's why have got a IGS or Step file before the split for prisa please? The aim is to make only one piece for helmet and other. Is it possible to send me them? Thanks a lot.

I knoticed your comment regarding the file sizes. I have most the Iron Man suits from 1 - 46. Is there a particulaer version your after? Cheers Jace

Jace1969, I am a big fan of the Mk VII armor. Would you be willing to upload that to Thingiverse? :)

Iron Man Mk7 Suit / Armour

Machine war and Mk6 I think. Twice costums that you have put on thingiverce. Thanks a lot .

Ok cool, If there is a particular model your after let me no and I'll upload it. Cheers Jace

Hi Jace, where do you will upgrade ?
You will add on each model on thingiverse ?
Thanks Cyrille

Hi Kenny, Yes its just been a time thing. Each model takes a couple of days to convert and try and make them print ready. I've been meaning to upload them for the past year. But with so many models in the pipe line, its taking me longer than I thought. I still have about 500 odd models to upload here excluding the Iron Man series. I just Thought if you were after a particualr model I would upload that first : ) Cheers Jace

Hi Jace, there is no problem. I have time, Halloween is next year ;-)
I know that is a big work and I congratulate to you again.
I have made first the glove and all is Ok.
Best regards

Sorry we havent established yet, what it is that is your favorite Iron Man model? what "Mk" version do you like : )

Mk6 and war machine. Thanks

Thats amazing! One day ill print this

Mr.Dave. just WOW! :D

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I know how you feel , Its like bad junk mail you keep getting in the mail! Just keeps turning up unnecessarily!

I've created the gloves and lower arm parts thus far, but there doesn't appear to be a "Pin" for connecting "Lower arm Pt 2" and "Lower arm Pt 3". I know you use springs to make it close after lifting your hand, but do you use a hinge or pin or both?

Anyone have trouble printing the lower arm file 2 , it appears to have an insert and cant print without support

Hey =)

Maybe I'm missing things but yours appears slightly different. The "neck" parts in the file don't look anything like the neck in the pictures as far as I can tell? Also the arm part that goes just under your elbow is different a bit too, on yours there are circular rings on both sides of your elbow but the files only have one. along with different neck/shoulder parts (the bits that go over your shoulder, between you neck and shoulders). In the files there are hinge parts on the front but I don't see them on yours ? I have actually printed many of these parts and have been comparing them. Could you help please?

Many thanks in advance.

hi man! can you send me the file of the biceps and lower arm not splitted? i want to print the suit with my cr 10 in less pieces as possible..... thank you man

gabricooperd@gmail.com

How tall are you? I’m 5’11” and want to print this for Halloween in 2018 and to display. I just wanted to know if I might have to scale it up. I’m going for the black suit.

Quote from the discription:

It might be that some parts to not fit to your body. please check it bevor you print all.
I am about 1.8 meters high and I have a weight of 80kg. The following measures may help you:
head: 58cm
shoulders 53cm (from side to side)
chest: 105cm
waist: 90cm
hips: 104cm

so I am about 5’9”

Hope this will help you.

I'm considering this for my 2018 3d print challenge and curious about it's flexibility. Like, if i were to want to go running or jogging with this, would it hinder movement? If it doesn't, totally wearing this for a half marathon

it would definitly hinder your movement XD.
I was happy that I could walk and move like the video shows....
I don't believe that much more movement is possible with pla oder abs as material.

No jogging at all I think ^^

Thank you so much for sharing this design!

I'm not devoted enough to make the full suit, but I am making a right arm and glove. I have a few questions abut the electronics in the hands. How are the LEDs wired, and what power source is used?

I'm sorry if this was asked already (there's a lot of comments to look through!)

i did the helmet but i cant put in my head, is the maxilar removible? tnx guys i need help

Only WOW, greta work thanks for the files

I am looking to build the helmet and I was looking at the materials list, but I was confused about what the contactor is. I was just looking for clarification. Thank you

The contactor is used to send the open or close signal to the arduino (HIGH and LOW signal). There are a lot of other possibilties to do so, if you are good in programming and you know how to use it, you can also do a voice activation ;-), but I want a video then. Hope this helped ?

2 questions. I printed the helmet at 110%, seems massive... but I wanted to make it slightly larger so I could fit foam in it. How well did the original fit you?

the 2nd question is where are the instructions for the mechanical setup for the helmet?

The helm did not fit as well es the mk3 helmet ;-) therefore I use that one.

There is a "Long Picture that should Show you how to do it. Picture 23 and the following. Hope These will help you.

...damn I now have a watermelon sized helmet lol... didn't help I kicked it up to 110%

Try out the MK3 helmet. It is really good!

the armor that is in the photos has nothing to do with the one that can be printed, very disappointed to see that the pieces not only do not fit, but they are not the ones that appear in the photo :(

I've printed the suit and it is exactly the same as the one in the pictures. What is it you think you are missing?

.... how can you be such a liar, is not the same suit, and printed the complete head and are different pieces, do not end up fitting well, the left hand is not, is a project that needs to be finished and improve ....

Well, as I mentioned in the discription and in the comment (just for you).... it is the MK3 helmet on the picture, the MK6 helmet you can see single as Halloween decoration. But it seems that you dont want to read, just want to argue with people and beeing unpolite.

First of all, where do you get off calling me a liar? Not cool dude. You could just check my makes and see the prints...
Second of all, you should be more than thankful, that someone took the time and effort to make this design and share it with the rest of us.
This is not something you just do... I would think that you should go practice using your printer more and getting that to work for you a 100% before engulfing yourself with a project as large and time-consuming as this suit is. Everything needed to know is written in detail in the description. Nothing false or misguiding has been written. Not posting facts of actual misplaced parts or different STL files from what you see in the pictures doesn't help your case much either. Re-read the description and printing guide and stop blaming the author for mistakes he can't or doesn't have any influence on.

Thanks man, but I just believe he wants to argue with people.
The time we waste on his comments, is not worth it.

I am sorry to hear, that you are that disappointed. But be sure, that this is the same. I printed it ;-).
Just let me know where your problems are man, instead of telling destructive things which are not true.

And I think your problem is the helmet, as I can read out of your last comment. Did you read the text before writing a comment?
Here is a Quote for you: "I prefere the MK3 helmet to wear. I like the look more.
You can download it from "jhon De Sousa" on the following link:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:260152"

Iron Man Mark III Life-size Helmet

Hey DaDave, I was wondering if you had the original files before you cut them up? I need the shoulder_L. I wanna try to fix placement of a part.

Just uploaded the shoulder with and without ballhinge.

I started to print the helmet and the four side parts are impossible to mount, may be because I'm using abs ??

It prints and fits fine, maybe check your printing temps.

I have a Question that is killing me. In the pic with the suit on the table. The bottom left part (left forearm) is shorter in the front than the model. The hand guard is closer to the forearm. Also seems the rotation is off a bit too. From the cuff.wrist area to the Forearm. Anyone else notice this?

My forearm is not that long, therefore I needed to cut it out and set it to a new position.
It is not an universal fitting costume for every people with every size and every weight. I think everyone needs to make any little adjustment untill it fits for him. There might be some more parts you will need to adjust until they fit to your body.

Thanks so much for the reply and the Model.

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hello i am going to print this and build it i just have some questions on building it once its printed do you have any instruction on how to do that and could you possibly list the items that i need besides the printed part. this is amazing props to you for this design love it

Everything you need beside is mentioned in the discription.
Well I would start with measuring yourself and check out if it fits. Otherwise you need to scale it.
You will need a lot of endurance to make the whole costume. It is a lot of printing time....

Also can you repair lower_arm_R_pt3? one side is kinda meshed up!

hi thanks for the stl files :) I have print many parts and glue them but still can't understand how the shoulders connects with the chest, can you help me?

Hello, I have some questions
I don't know how to program the arduino part.
what motors I have to buy and how I can program the helmet open and light on.
sorry about the bad english thank you

I think you are talking about the helmet right? Here is a Quote from my discription:

Helm: 4x M4 Bush, MG995 Servo, any arduino or other micro controller, at least 8x LED white, 4x M4x10, 4x M3x20, 4x M3 nut, acrylglass, 2x contactor , (or 1x, depending on the sketch you use)

I hope this will help you. I used an arduiono uno board, but you can also use an arduino nano board or anything you like.

The programming: well, I can upload my Sketch, but I am not sure if this will really help you, but just let me know if you want it. I am also not a "programmer" I did not Programm anything before. I just checked a lot of tutorials until it worked. This helps you a lot to understand whats going on and might be better.

oh thanks i checked it now
May i get your sketch files of the arduino? (for helmet)

I just uploaded the Sketch for helmet and back.

A bunch of the parts such as the pieces for the thigh consist of two walls instead of a single solid wall, is this on purpose? Because it is making these parts virtually impossible to print since it's so flimsy, is there anything I can do to fix this?

Hallo richleyance,

I used Cura as slicer and it worked. I did not recognize it. I am sorry about that, I used the "Inspector" of Meshmixer to check it, but he did not recognize a failure. I am not that good in Shaping that I can help you there. I am sorry,

Hi,
I have a question. Is there a reason why the sideparts of the helmet are different? Left side is different compared to right side? Or do I need to mirror one of the pieces? Thanx

Hey Joker82,

it is just how I cutted them. I cutted the parts with meshmixer. You dont need to mirror it. Just the parts with an "L" or "R" needed to be mirrored.

Hello,

Since I am slowly approaching the end of printing the suit, I noticed for the chest in the movie version there is a silver piece that goes around the arc reactor. I was wondering if you had a part that goes around that....if not could you make it or have any tips to go about this so I can be sure it fits?

Thanks!

I added ARC-Window-Cover.stl
I think that is what you mean?

I dont know about the right scale, but it is fast to pirnt, you can try :-)

You're the man! This is what I was taking about, I will give this a try when I get home.

Thank you!

Did anyone have the arduino code for this ?

what do you mean with arduino code? do you mean the gcode?

No, he means arduino code. It is a micro controller that would run the lights and servos as well as any sounds.

I get that you would want to use one for the sounds but i dont know why you need one for the servos and co?
Btw the lights are controled by an reed switch in the chin

can i get a mask that isnt battle damaged

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:260152
Here is the helm I used. As mentioned in the discription.

the mask for the MK6 helmet is also as not battle damaged downloadable... it is in these files.
helm_pt08.stl

hope this will help.

Iron Man Mark III Life-size Helmet

How tall are you so I can scale these parts accordingly?

Tried 4 times with multiple settings to print the glove and same spot it messes up...

Maybe post a picture as as make and i will take a look. It is complicated to hell something without any information except that it broke up.....

Awesome design and thanks for the upload!

Did you also do the War Machine armor or was it someone else?

Well I also made the 3D files and helped a friend of mine to create it, but I did not make one for me

hello world
I have a dream

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Going through and slicing the arm and chest pieces I'm finding a lot of them have floating parts that aren't in any way connected to the main pieces. I don't suppose anyone has repaired these or knows of a magic fix?

I just noticed the same thing. Had to cancel printing chest_half_L_pt03 and its mirror because the hinge part isn't connected and my printer was just trying to print in thin air. A fix for this would be great.

Has anyone made versions of these files that will print on a Flashforge Creator Pro or similar sized printer (ie 150x250x150mm print area?).
If not, could you suggest a good software package to use to split models myself?

Windows 10 free 3DBuilder perfect and simplistic, works a treat ; )

Hi, looks like an awesome build but I was wondering how tall are you, just so I can resize the suit if need be

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Have you considered creating parts for the joints instead of a red unitard? You might be able to print parts that are flexible and comfortable enough with some of the flexible filament that companies are producing, all the while creating a better looking suit.

What size bed do you need for these parts??

Here is the reply put of my discription:

All parts were made for a Prusa I3 with a 220x220x240mm buildplate.
If you have any problems or find parts which are to big please contact me and I will do my best to change it.

I think this will hell you.

Well Im gonna try to print this even though I know it wont fit

hey dadave, it was forever ago that i said i was going to update my make with the lower arm, well i finally got around to it. you should check it out.

is it just me or is there only one half of the suit in the stl files ? are there more files I am missing. Thank you for your time and this is awesome !!!!

Hallo Shanker, i mentioned in the discription that you need to mirror every part with a "R" or a "L" to get the full suit. It is the easiest way to mirror them with your slicer software.

I Figured it out......duh.... just use nettfabb to mirror the file. Thank you and this is awesome !!!!

If I were to send you a .obj of a mark 4 chest could you make it printable?

Sure, I'll give it a go, send me a link or message me your email address, Cheers Jace

I could possibly do it. I have quite a view projects on at the moment so would be a matter of how urgent are you for it?
I have versions 1 right through to 46 I think I may have that one perhaps already done, but will need to confirm once I get home ; )

That would be awesome if you already have it....I am currentlyprinting the rest of the suit so I have a bit of time. ...just let me know

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2213969 How did you get on did it work out for you ok? Cheers Jace

Iron Man Chest Mk 4

hi there,

i am for now just printing out the right hand glove. as of now, i have the fingers and thumb parts all printed out. What do you recommend for combining the finger parts? some sort of elastic band so they're movable? I love the suit model and i can't wait to test this out as my first download from Thingiverse!

I glued all parts on a workingglove.
You need to put the glove into the handpart before. For glueing, you can use hot glue.

On the last picture at the following thing you can see how I used the glove.
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1623321

Iron Man MK6 MK 6 Glove Hand with repulsor
by DaDave

glad i read the comments i was about to ask the samething :-)

Hey Jimmy,

einfach nur um einen Prozentwert hoch oder runter skalieren geht sehr einfach. Das kann jeder slicer. Aber ich gehe davon aus, dass du vermutlich nicht in jede Richtung gleich skalieren willst oder? Wie stark sind deine Maße von meinen? Habe meine ja in die Zusammenfassung geschrieben.

Kannst mich auch gerne mal über thingiverse anschreiben, dann treten wir das nicht so breit in den Kommentaren aus.

Hi,
Vorab erstmal, Riesen Respekt!
Geile Arbeit, die du da geleistet hast!!
Jetzt zu meiner Frage: wäre es für dich ein großer Aufwand mir die Parts auf meine Maße zu skalieren?
Bin neu im "Business" und bin noch nicht so ganz dahintergestiegen, wie alles funktioniert. Deswegen habe ich mir gedacht ich frage dich einfach mal :P

Gruß

Hi, hab gesehen du hast Duplicolor Autolack genommen für das PLA. Welche Grundierung hast du draufgemacht? Hast du Füller oder Spachtelmasse verwendet um die Konturen /Rillen zu glätten?
Denkst du man könnte es auch mit PETG drucken und hast du dort Erfahrung mit dem lackieren?

Aus Kostengründen habe ich 2k Spachtelmasse genommen. Filler wäre recht teuer für den ganzen Anzug.

Mit PETG habe ich leider nur begrenzt Erfahrung. Habe es nur schon mal gedruckt aber noch nie gespachtelt und auch noch nie verklebt oder verlötet. Auch lackiert habe ich es noch nicht.

Ich habe Dupli-Color 385889 Haftgrund genommen. Es ist kein spezieller Kunststoffhaftgrund, aber im Kfz Bereich wird er auch auf ABS genutzt. Bis jetzt hätte ich keinerlei Haftungsprobleme.

Hoffe das hilft weiter

Hi again. So I have the back and chest completed. However, I'm looking at the pictures you have posted here, and it looks like the pieces that sit on the shoulder have extra hinges that my pieces don't. Specifically, I'm talking about the part "back_half_1." The pictures you have here show two sets of hinges that attach the back piece to the chest piece, whereas mine only has one. Was this an intended change, or is something missing?

When I am back home, I will Check the files again. I hopefully there is nothing messing. This will take some time. I will be back home on friday.

I'm working on a similar project and I was wondering which parts attach to the ribs in order to close up the center of the suit? I have the chest piece and the back plate but there is a huge gap between the chests end and the cod pieces and I cant seem to tell which files these are in order to close this gap. could you please help?

Send me a private massage pls. Then I give you a mail adress. You can send me pics of the problem. that makes it easier to solve it.

good morning, for the dimensions size of the head?

As mentioned in the discription: I did not use this helmet I uploaded for the cosplay. I used the one I posted in the discription.
I scaled the helmet of the mk 6 in nearly the same scale as the one I used. BUT: you will need a bigger hole to get in. You will need a removabele yaw or a flap at the back. You need to do this manualy. The hole to get in is to small to get your head in without changes. That is, because your neck is smaller than your head.

That is so STINKIN AWESOME!!!!!!

Hey there,

I just printed back_half_pt02.stl and it appears that half of it is hollow. It took me a little while to figure it out, but it looks like it has 4 walls on one side of it instead of 2, so the infill is being placed in between the tiny space between the two walls on each side, instead of the large empty space in between. If I'm not making sense, just load it up in any slicer and do a layer-by-layer view and you'll see what I mean.

Edit: Just realized that back_half_pt03.stl does the exact same thing where it's meant to connect to part 2. I haven't checked any others yet as I'm printing part 3 right now. Is this an intended part of the design?

Did you ever figure this out? I appear to be having the same issue with back half 3 and 4. The outer piece of each of these segments is completely hollow. Makes them pretty fragile.

have had to slice a few bits to fit on my bed excited to see it all come together next few days will upload a picky once its done :)

and hopefully no major issues with bits fitting together :)

I am very excited to see it

ooppss its 2 cm too small for my head ha ha ha first mistake made :(

the top section does the face plate sit on top of the top section as seems too big, will upload the images once have finished this final part of the faceplate

hi where is shoe right files

Well as mentioned in the discription, you need to mirror the left one, to get the right

hi is this the full suit as i would like to build it

Well, as mentioned in the discription, it is the full suit. There are just 2 partscwhich are made of foam. Neck and riss.
All parts I used from other members are also mentioned.

Hi is this a full suit

I was wondering if you could help me make a suit that would fit? I'm about 6 foot 2 and a half and 270 pounds.

What exactly is glove_R_pt04 used for? I don't understand where I am supposed to put this piece, or if I need more than one of them as well. Thank you for uploading these files as well, I plan to print this, and surprise everyone I know by walking into school with it on XD

Hey jrglover,
glove_R_pt04 is used to put in the center of your glove. You can put 3mm LED's inside (4 holes at the outer ring) or a smd spot in the center. I used a small switch to turn the "repulsor" on or of. If you do not want to use a repulsor, you do not need to print it.

Okay, that makes sense, thanks!

If you have the time in the near future, it would be very nice if you could add the neck :-)

Neck added, but not tested. It is the neck which was on the downscaled figure. It is just the half, so you will need to mirror it :-)

Thanks mate, that is more then I could ask for :D I will try to test it out this weekend.

This is great! I can't wait to print this out to wear :) it will be an epic build in more ways than one :)

Hello, can you split the faceplate of the helmet in 2 parts? It´s too big for my printer.

Excellent job. I´m gonna try to print the full costume.

Thank you.

Just check this remix:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1822141
Someone already cutted it.

Ironman Helm Face in 2 parts

Thank you !!! you are the man.

I actually need the whole neck-part, how did you make that one?

I used foam for this, because I wanted soft materials on my neck. If you need some papakura files you will find them on therpf.com or something similar.
You could also could the foam parts freehand.
If you dont find anything, just message me.

already tried it with pepakura/foam but i didn´t really get the right shape that i wanted, specially the connection to my upper body...treied with a eva foam- gymnastic mat, what did you use?

I used cellular rubber (translated word, I dont know if it is right - the thing you used in playschool for handycraft work), but EVA foam is fine, too. To make a good shape I used a blow dryer and a pipe. I just connected the parts with hook-and-loop fastener to the printed neck parts. It is not connected to the rest of the upper body. Hopefully the might help you. Otherwise I will try to make some pictures.

seh grad du bist aus Deutschland, dann sag mal wies nicht-übersetzt heißt :D auf Fasching hin werde ich es eben nicht schaffen alles zu drucken bzw zu bauen, dann kommt nur ein Shirt mit Arc Reactor, dann der Halsteil und dann der Helm...drum sollte der Halsteil recht bündig auf die Brust übergehn :)

Also ich habe Moosgummi genommen. Ich habe auch schon Mal einen kompletten Anzug aus Zellkautschuk gemacht. der ist etwas weicher. als Idee, mach für den Übergang unten roten Stoff an das Halsstück und zieh zuerst den Hals an und danach das T-Shirt, dann ist der Stoff unter dem T-Shirt und man sieht kaum etwas davon. der einzige Nachteil ist die Farbe.

Achso also hast du den nicht bemalt oder? im Prinzip ist die Matte die ich verwendet habe wie Moosgummi nur etwas dicker.... jop hatte ich auch vor, nur hat man es dann auch unterm shirt gesehen weils etwas herausgeragt ist, aber ich werds mal mit Moosgummi versuchen, danke :)

Hätte da noch eine Frage, wie genau hast du die Scharniere für die faceplate miteinander verbunden?
irgendwelche besonderen Plastikschrauben?

Hab mit die Maske mit Klebeband fixiert und die Hülsen mit nem Lötkolben angepunktet. Dann alles gelöst und die richtig befestigt. Du musst natürlich ungefähr die richtigen Punkte treffen. Aber durch das ansonsten kann man ja etwas probieren. Die Flächen der Hülsen sollten parallel zueinander sein. Sonst fällt mir nichts ein.

Hab mit die Maske mit Klebeband fixiert und die Hülsen mit nem Lötkolben angepunktet. Dann alles gelöst und die richtig befestigt. Du musst natürlich ungefähr die richtigen Punkte treffen. Aber durch das ansonsten kann man ja etwas probieren. Die Flächen der Hülsen sollten parallel zueinander sein. Sonst fällt mir nichts ein.

nein ich meine wie du die Scharniere gmacht hast, dass die beweglich sind, also mit den weßen Plastikschrauben,einfach reingeschraubt?

Ja genau. Dadrin sind ja Gewinde Hülsen für m4 schrauben. Die ich genutzt habe, nutzt man normalerweise für Holz. Ein Gewinde rein schneiden halte ich nicht für sinnvoll. Damit trennt man oft die layer.was für schrauben du nimmst ist am Ende egal. Aber die teflon schrauben sind noch etwas flexibel, man kann ja kaum 100% genau arbeiten. Die gleichen das ein bisschen aus.

ok super, danke dir :)

Question, Ive been printing off all of the parts and im at the hands. What did you use to connect lower arm pt 2 to pt 3. I see that there are hinges but it looks as if there is a rod that goes between the holes?

I used a flexible strip to connect the parts. Really good hinges are pretty complicated to creat, because the turningpoint is not where you can put a hinge on. If anyone has a good idea for a hinge there, I would be happy.

What software did you use to model this? Also, how tall are you? I am 6'6" and was wondering how much to scale the parts

As mentioned in the discription, I used a figure and just scaled.
I used meshmixer to scale, cut, and extrude the parts.
I also mention my bodysize in the discription. I am about 1.8 meters, that must be something around 5ft 10.8in.
So you are 10% bigger than me. There must be at least 10% scale than.

Great Designs! Could you possibly recreate the glove file #3 for the finger tips? My printer will not allow me to print until the pieces have a more solid connection to the build plate. Thanks!!!

could you please check which finger is the Problem so that I can just make one new finger ?
here are just the fingers as files:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2025961

Hi! Awesome job! I already started with the helmet part, but part 6 is not the same piece that I can see in your photos and doesn't fit correctly with part 8, where I can find the piece exactly you are wearing in the photos? thanks a lot

I mention the helmet i wear in the discription. it is not made by me. it is the mk 3 helmet.
This might be the differences. If you got any more questions, just send me a massage.

hey I was looking through your pictures and I noticed that there is a bunch of gaps on the hinge sections which I understand but I was thinking if you designed thinner sections for those areas you can print it in ninjaflex material which would allow to print armor designs while being flexible and comfortable instead of having those giant gaps where yo can see the skin suit thing

I thougt about printing Flex material, there are two reason why I did not use it.
First I have an bowden Extruder.
Second if you use flexible material, the paint will break of while moving around. Then you could also make a foam parts or a foam suit.
If you will not paint it, Flex materials would be great.

could always try and print in the color I want for the bends, the only thing got to really worry about is the color difference since there is some many different colors and brands

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I've printed the spine now.

Works perfectly now! Thanks for taking the time to redo it :-)

I have another question for you.

What code/sketch have you used to control the helmet servo?

Also when mounting the servo. Did you add more spacers to get it leveled? Mine opens the faceplate offbeat. I will try to add supports to get it to open more even.

how did you attached the shins/calf peices to your shins. i just finished printing and i have glue/soldered the front(shin) and back(calf) pieces separately. i know there will be no way if i went ahead and put all together i would not be able to slide my foot through them.

I used some springs to flap the knee part and used flexible straps to connect the shin and the calf.

I used some springs to flap the knee part and used flexible straps to connect the shin and the calf.

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Hi,
What are the dimensions largest part. I want to know if it will fit in my printer.

this was under " thing details"

All parts were made for a Prusa I3 with a 220x220x240mm buildplate.
If you have any problems or find parts which are to big please contact me and I will do my best to change it.

How are the fingers connected to each other and the main glove piece, if at all? Also did you use a hinge to connect the glove part 2 to glove part 1?

I just glued the fingers on the glove below. There are no hinges between.

For my suit I did not use the second part, because you will not see if it is there with the handcover above.
If you really want to use it, I would take small magnets orhook-and-loop-fastener to connect it. Hinge might use to much space or.

then how are you keeping the finger parts from moving around or slipping off of your fingers? Is the glue that you're talking about keeping the entire finger static?

Well that otta be interesting to change because i need them to be able to move

maybe use Velcro and use a glove the Velcro can attach to

Hello again mate.

Have you encountered any problems with the back_spine_pt2.stl file?

Its seems that it's not a solid and cant be printed. I've tried fixing it with meshmixer, but can't seem to do it without making it look very "fat" and loosing all the "sharpness" to it.

Well, you seem to be right it seems not to be really printable. I will create a new one these days, but if you want to print it faster, just take spine pt3 and print it 4 times. it needed to have the same size.

hey,

I have the front and back pieces hinged together .On back spine pt1. did you change that? The one i printed looks smaller (then the pictures you provided) and when i soldered it onto the back it made the head area opening more narrow. I can't put my head through the opening or was there another way you put on?

The part I uploaded was a changed part by someone who reworked it a little. The "noses" are different. But anything else must be nearly the same. If you got any Problems with them, just let me know. then I will upload the other one, too.

Thanks mate, no problem I can wait :D Still got a LOT to be printed hehe.

I will check it. I had no problems as you can see, but as I reworked it, there night be failures